Tuesday, July 21, 2009

Music: Origins | Jubal Cain

Recently watched X-Men Origins | Wolverine and that’s why I’ve got the post title as above. So please X- cuse me for using this bold post title. I could make this post short & precise or long & interesting….but since I don’t feel I’m good enough a writer to achieve either, I’ll TRY to stick to the middle path. Wait. Don’t think even this is going to be possible. Lost all writing skills - whatever I had over the last 6 years. Blame it on the habit of simply ticking off answers from multiple choices and not having to write up credible looking answers on my answer sheets during exams. Alright enough of the intro…on to the main piece.

Why is rock and roll music associated with the devil? Or…there is no such thing as Gospel Rock….There is NO music ever used or approved in the worship of the Holy Spirit…. Besides coming across such statements, I’ve also always wondered about the consistent use of the 5 pointed star [inverted]….goat’s head kind of imagery etc….in the album / merchandise artwork of metal and rock bands.

It was early this year that I started getting a little deep into trying to read and learn more about the link between music and the devil so to say. Google up subjects like this and one instantly gets so many links on it. So for awhile I got interested in something “off topic” -- the Illuminati and their mission to create a new world order or world domination -- which I myself have been planning all along. [ I gave up my world domination attempt when all my mission plan data files were wiped out -- my hard disk crashed last month.]

So anyways back to music… it was an odd dark stormy afternoon in May at the office, [please note: during spare time :-) ] … that I came across the ultimate webpage that gave me the answer I was looking for regarding the Satan & Music equation. Just as I was about to click the icon on my browser to save the site on my list of favorites the power went off and my UPS failed to give a power back up. Sorry I just lied. It was my boss who came to me at that moment and said that some of our sites were being infected with an “iframe.inf” virus…and they’d traced someone in Russia who was injecting the malicious code. They wanted me to fly up to the hacker’s location and exterminate him. However, my body was in no condition to execute such an important mission. [I was recovering from the effects of a street food eating incident gone wrong] Whew!!! thus I was able to carry on reading the contents of the web page.
Now, the subject I was reading on the site was not at all on music. It was on Freemasonry and Catholicism by Max Heindel [1865-1919]. Part two of this exposition titled The Masonic Legend mentions that the Masonic legend “has points of variance from as well as agreement with the Bible story”…. [Genesis]. And it was here that I read that Jubal Cain [a descendant of Cain] “originated music”. At this point I assumed that Jubal Cain was someone who only appeared on this Masonic Legend. Later on I came across another site which mentioned "In pagan traditions, musical instruments are invented by gods or demi-gods, such as titans. In the Bible, credit is assigned to antediluvian patriarchs, for example, the descendants of Cain in Genesis 4:21...”

I read the line again. Back home I opened my Bible and looked up the mentioned verse in Genesis chapter 4. Now, I did go to Sunday School as a child and learnt about the creation of the earth, Adam & Eve, Cain & Abel, The flood & Noah’s ark, The Tower of Babel and so on but honestly I never went back to reading or paying attention to Genesis 4:21..”…Jubal; he was the father of all who play the harp and flute. and verse 22 ...“...Tubal-Cain who forged all kinds of tools….” [Please note: I mention these points from a Christian/Biblical perspective] So, there we have it!!! Jubal Cain invented the harp and the flute…and I guess he and his sons also made other musical instruments. Thus justifying my post title: Music: Origins… :-) and yes, Tubal Cain too; important man….first man -- inventing tools to make work easier.[Note: The man in the image is NOT Jubal Cain.]

On trying to read more about Jubal Cain on the internet I also came across a band called Jubal Cain :-) [They have a pretty funny FAQ section.] I guess naming ones band after the father of musical instruments does not guarantee musical “rockstardom”…Just Google or Bing up the band.

X-Men Origins…love the opening sequence that follows just after Logan [Wolverine] kills his real father…Oh, wait; I’ve not mentioned the Devil and music equation thing have I?

Back to the FreeMasonic legend / Max Hiendel part. In the Bible, Cain’s father = Adam.
Not so in the Masonic Legend.

The following lines - extract from Hiendel’s exposition:

“…It [Masonic Legend] states that Jehovah created EVE, that the Lucifer Spirit SAMAEL united with her but that he was ousted by Jehovah and forced to leave her before the birth of her son Cain, who was thus THE SON OF A WIDOW. Then Jehovah created ADAM, to be the husband of Eve, and from their union Abel was born. Thus from the beginning there have been two kinds of people in the world. One begotten by the Lucifer Spirit Samael and partaking of a semi-divine nature …..”

So, this particular legend [ for me] is how I believe all these Rock Music = Devil’s Music kind of statements and stories have come to be made and told. After all, this Masonic legend states that the descendants of Lucifer invented musical instruments. Now there are other myths/stories to be read which link up the devil with music.

"Slightly less familiar are the Devil's musical exploits. He not only loves singing but is master of the violin, of which instrument of evil he is reputedly the inventor. By the same token he can give mastery of the violin, bartering infernal skill for the pupil's soul.

These legends are related to the larger belief in the supernatural origin of musical skill and individual songs." (Botkin, B. A., A Treasury of American Folklore, Crown Publishers, p. 718; Cf. The Devil and the Fiddle, Herbert Halpert, Hoosier Folklore Bulletin, Vol II (Dec., 1943).
However, again from a Christian perspective the issue regarding the use of musical instruments in worship is something that I have to read and learn more about to give a definite opinion.

I end with yet one more extract.

In the story of Genun or Jubal, Musical worship is treated as Satan's change agent to seduce God's people down into his dusty world where he lives and where God, in Genesis, assigned him. The following story has many parallels in Scripture often hidden in parable-words in which Jesus said the Truth of God was put in safekeeping from those who see "godliness as a means of financial gain."
Kenneth Sublett, Hohenwald, Tennessee
---------------------------------------------------------------------------Bibliography: [click on the links below to read more]
Freemasonry and Catholicism by Max Heindel [1865-1919]
Instrumental Worship in Music
Genun - Jubal - Musical Worship - Book of Adam and Eve

Johann Martin Schleyer (1831-1912), photography from 1888http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:JM_Schleyer_1888.jpg


  1. i didn't know that the freemasons had a religious tradition at all. i've only heard, from a friend who is a mason, that you cannot be an atheist and a mason.

    i'd have thought that hebrew temple worship would have been rather loud-what with trumpets and drums. on a tangent, isn't it fairly recently that the 'khuang' came back in use in the church? i seem to remember hearing that the missionaries had banned it.

  2. @ feddabonn >> Yes, from what i've read what you mention is correct. Like i mentioned..there is so much to read on the internet..and probably the particular Masonic Legend i refer to is not even what the real masons acknowledge...

    Anyways if one reads the Max Hiendels link ive given..you will read about StateCraft..[Sons of Cain..pretty interesting..].. TubalCain seems to be a very important person...from what i read in other sources..and the Craft part..

    "A volume of sacred law is always displayed in an open lodge...In English speaking countries this is frequently the King James version of the Bible....there is no such thing as an exclusive "Masonic Bible" "
    Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freemasonry
    3.2 - Supreme being and the volume of SacredLaw

    Interesting thing you mention about the 'khuang'..don't want to comment much lest i say something wrong.. but yes sometimes we see members "lam rui" in church...a literal translation = dancing inberiated?.. to the fast drum beats.. sometimes i think it's like fans going to a metal concert and headbanging to the heavy music....

    now ive seen the this headbanging thing in Kolkata too at a tabla concert i attended..it was mostly old people in the crowd but i was pretty amused ..i noticed them moving their heads up and down to the tabla beats [which was pretty frenetic - like double bass drums]..there were no vocals just tabla recital by a fantastic duo.. towards the climax one old man even jumped out of his seat and started dancing towards the stage.. :-)

  3. *lam rui = dancing inebriated spelling error [very literal translation]

  4. Regarding that phrase " THE SON OF A WIDOW"; i've come across a similar commentary regarding the father of Cain. When John the Baptist preached, he remarked the Jews as "descendant of the serpent" .Matt 3:7. Some interpreted that The serpent actually mated Eve giving birth to Cain.
    However, there is no other verse in the Good Book referring or confirming this statement.

    Anyway in my humble opinion, all things on heaven and earth are created by God, even the Devil himself. So, I stick to Rock.

  5. @ nell_maiden >> Thank you for dropping in...Likewise here - Rock till i Drop :-)..and some metal too with a little Dylan once in awhile..

    ..and regarding Cain being the offspring of Lucifer.. it's only what i've read in the Masonic Legend in Max Heindel's exposition..

    Anyways i'm assuming youre an Iron Maiden fan.. but just in case you listen to Dreamtheater give a listen to the song - "A Rite of Passage" ..it's totally about Freemasonry.. [in their latest album - Black Clouds and Silver Linings]..oh, and keep an eye open for the album cover.. theres a painting canvas on the left which has an eye in a triangle..very Masonic...

    ..in fact this latest DT album cover has been created by graphic artist Hugh Syme..who has also designed Iron Maiden's "The X-Factor" album cover...

  6. I've heard somewhere that the Beat of the Drums affects the heartbeat which in turn, kinda controls the body or sumthin..
    IMHO, whatever song or music, as long as it is intended for worship, shouldn't be discouraged.. but intended here, meaning, the song/music you would want to play for worship when you know that no one will hear but yourself.. one only lets the inner self out when one's alone.
    Its kinda like.. "Your real laughter is when you laugh at something when there's no one to hear you"

  7. More about the "lam rui"...unfortunately for the faithfuls, this is present in all religions and pagan worship...as u mentioned, the beat of the drums, the constant rhythmic tune (like in a trance music) can cause the human mind to lower its innate defense and go in a state of semi-consciousness where one is not in complete control of his/her actions....ask any frequent club goers...they will testify
    In a church....good or bad ....I cant say or judge......everything has its use in the appropriate time and place
    God gives the wisdom to know when & where

  8. @ blackestred >> Very well put.. i like the laughter analogy you've given... My personal observation..sometimes i feel Gospel/Christian bands focus too much on THEIR MUSIC and it's related peripheries...

    @ OpaHmar >> The drum beats ...yes music is powerful..and it[drums] being used in pagan worship.. Feddabonn up there also mentions about it being banned by the Missionaries..

    On this note.. this is what i read..

    "Before we look at music it must be noted that clean, pure tones are often helpful in therapy. For instance, you will rarely find people doing their mantra with instruments or four part harmony..." ..

    "Music in the complex sense shuts down the higher, spiritual or rational right brain and opens the pleasure gateway to the more ANIMAL-LIKE part of our brain. That emotional side is created to cause us to FIGHT, FLIGHT or seek and enjoy SEXUAL experiences."

    Source: http://www.piney.com/MuEndorp.html

    I don't know whether im just making up things in my mind but i'd think i also remembering reading somewhere else that women are more susceptible to the power of music.. so just maybe that could explain more womenfolk dancing in church..

    Source: http://www.piney.com/MuEndorp.html

  9. This is all so interesting!!

    No wonder they made a horror movie out of the Pied Piper of Hamlin! :D

    It tek me bek to de Blues brotha...Robert Johnson's *'Me and the Devil Blues' and his 'Crossroads'…legend has it that the 'king of the delta blues' traded his soul for Satan’s guitar.

    *"Me and the Devil, ooh
    was walkin' side by side
    And I'm goin' to *beat* my woman
    until I get satisfied"

    And this - 'women are more susceptible to the power of music' has now got me picturing our leathery ol' serpent wooing Eve with an apple and a heady number :D.
    But so true what you’ve written. Women have always been physically more responsive to music – be it dancing in church (related often to their ‘possession’) or outside. Guess that made it easier to view this as their being more connected to the baser/more primal (and hence, more satanic) instincts. Funny though, that in some faiths, this is the very thing that gives her power over men.

  10. @ Peer Gynt >> Have you ever heard of a woman called Imogen Heap? She is one woman i know who has power over men.

    And you mention the serpent, apple and Eve. The Bible does not mention the fruit of the tree of Good and Evil being an Apple at all....fruit for thought :-) pun intended..

  11. Imogen? methinks its safe to assume that she's power over wimmen too...hyuk! :D

    fruit for thought...yea look out fo yo 'adam's fruit' the next time ye have eleesh maach heehee :P

  12. @ Peer Gynt >> There was a serious discussion going on here.....this is not the right place to discuss fruits and fish.

  13. @ Anonymous >> are u laughing at us or with us? Peer Gynt seems not to like the LOL.. im worried for my own safety that this Gynt just might give me a lethal karate kick on my adam's fruit if we do cross paths....

    @ Peer Gynt >> See... im trying to clear things..Anonymous is anonymous to me too..

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